Highlights:
- the role of fantasy in politics
- The way pop culture feeds into and gets fed by politics, with references to '80s movies, pop culture characters, and WWF/WWE.
- how big names in the maga culture tend to be failed artists and comedians who never made the cut and the role of personal rejection in people turning fascists (may want to look at wood in that light) (also Hitler was a failed artist, Ben Shapiro was a failed screenwriter, and other gems).
Interesting conversation (maybe they're "completing the circle" a little more than they should, but still...)