I find it hard to imagine that Russia would sit at the same table

In Reply to: Serious question. How will Putin react to Europe posted by HasBen on March 02, 2025 at 10:00:48

with Europe or with Zelenskyy. The path forward involving Trump is the only one that has his approval. The only way Putin is in the same room with Zeleneskyy would be if Zelenskyy is in chains, humiliated, handing his country over to him and begging for mercy. Probably the same for Trump.

At this point, we are locked. Barring any coup on either side, this one is a fight to death, especially for Ukraine. Does Europe have the stomach for that? Will they be able to *develop* that missing stomach, we'll see. The break of the transatlantic alliance has profound consequences for both sides.

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• Europe remembers Hitler amadbruin 12:51:07 03/02/25 (8)
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    • The US will not attack Europe amadbruin 17:38:37 03/02/25 (0)
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    • Europe has nukes, now amadbruin 13:01:26 03/02/25 (4)
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        • Yup amadbruin 17:22:56 03/02/25 (0)
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        • Europe might take em amadbruin 17:24:38 03/02/25 (0)

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